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    Quote Originally Posted by WalshFan88 View Post
    While I agree Deacon couldn't sing everything, it really irks me having VG in the band. I just feel he didn't pay his dues enough and is just using it as a platform to boost himself up and become relevant again in the minds of younger people. He certainly isn't an Eagle and nor was he supposed to be. Deacon hasn't exactly paid his dues either, but at least he was in the family. Still bothers me though. I think Gill's enthusiasm for this new "venture" is what bothers me more than Deacon just being a caricature of Glenn but both are upsetting to say the least.
    It has started to bother me too. Not all the time obviously, but when I'm thinking about the "band" as it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalshFan88 View Post
    While I agree Deacon couldn't sing everything, it really irks me having VG in the band. I just feel he didn't pay his dues enough and is just using it as a platform to boost himself up and become relevant again in the minds of younger people. He certainly isn't an Eagle and nor was he supposed to be. Deacon hasn't exactly paid his dues either, but at least he was in the family. Still bothers me though. I think Gill's enthusiasm for this new "venture" is what bothers me more than Deacon just being a caricature of Glenn but both are upsetting to say the least.
    Agreed.

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    Irving Azoff quoted as the source by numerous media outlets including The Boot. I don't know if it is true or not but it is out there. Personally I think it is possible and don't know why Azoff would make this claim about when they got the idea to add Vince. What are your thoughts?

    "According to the Eagles’ manager, Irving Azoff, the idea of adding Gill to the band’s lineup came about during December’s Kennedy Center Honors ceremony, during which Gill helped pay tribute to the Eagles."

    The Boot
    http://theboot.com/vince-gill-the-ea...17-tour-dates/

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    IIRC The rumors about the band "reuniting/reforming" began circulating in the media around March 2017. Not long after came the stunning news about Azoff's summer CLASSiC East and West, a bi-coastal 6 band stadium sized concert with the Eagles sharing headliner billing with Fleetwood Mac. Given the time needed to organize an event of this size, contracting with talent, the venues, vendors, etc I would imagine this was being planned well in advance. Of course we gotta believe it helps that Azoff manages most if not all the talent/bands.

    Summary ... From Kennedy Center Honors Dec 2016 to Summer Classic 2017 @ 6 months

    New Lineup Publicity Photos released. Rehearsals begin in LA and elsewhere
    Thanks for clearing that up.

    I have nothing to say to the people who wish to 'enjoy' this, except that nobody is trying to stop them.

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    Just a question but what exactly do you mean by pay his dues for Deacon? I get Vince has been too cheerful and easy going but what would you like Deacon to do? Not criticizing but just curious. Should Deacon pay his dues the same way Vince should or would it be a different standard

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    If I were physically able to stand along with everyone else, I happily would. I’m going to be doing great to get inside the venue with the assistance of my friends and couldn’t possibly stand because of health issues. I will need to get cortisone injections in both knees and both shoulders to get by. So I imagine you are thinking why on earth should I go then? It’s because I’ve been waiting to see them again since 1980 and they have been at the top of my bucket list. Because it gives me something to be really excited about. The only gift under my Christmas tree is an Eagles concert ticket because my entire family has passed away. I’ve been an Eagles fan since the day their music first came on the radio. So I’m going one last time to see them, and it isn’t too much to ask to be able to actually see the concert.

    It appears that being excited about going to their concerts since Glenns passing is a touchy subject, so I apologize for making people uncomfortable. I won’t post anything further.

    Wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas, and may you and your families and loved ones find all the joy, health and happiness your hearts can hold in the New Year.
    TBF- Please don't feel that you can't post here. There is a form for all the new 2018 concerts/discussions, etc. You just posted in the wrong form about wanting to see them. As you are new here, I'm not sure if you know that this is the one form for people who do not agree with the "new" Eagles. You can post away in any other forms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungEaglesFan View Post
    Just a question but what exactly do you mean by pay his dues for Deacon? I get Vince has been too cheerful and easy going but what would you like Deacon to do? Not criticizing but just curious. Should Deacon pay his dues the same way Vince should or would it be a different standard
    My own opinion is that Deacon should have attempted to develop his own career and not have been thrust into this without any preparation, without playing to small audiences, without developing a sense of HIMSELF as opposed to being made into an imitation of his father. But that is just a small part of my endless objections to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungEaglesFan View Post
    Just a question but what exactly do you mean by pay his dues for Deacon? I get Vince has been too cheerful and easy going but what would you like Deacon to do? Not criticizing but just curious. Should Deacon pay his dues the same way Vince should or would it be a different standard
    I just think Vince has had a very easy in that he didn't deserve...And now he gets to tack that name onto his resume when he's not an Eagle and never contributed anything during their real period (70s, 90s, or 00s). He now gets to put that on his bio and I don't think he worked quite hard enough for it. I feel while he may be a good guy and a good musician, he isn't up to Eagles standards and while he and Glenn might have been friends, they never did anything musically together with the band and just looks like he got a prestigious award for doing nothing.

    Deacon in theory yes should also have to prove his worth and have came up into that role by starting out in bars and going small and having to earn it rather than just slide into that place just because he's a family member. It's like when a famous family gets their kid into some role because they "know people" and they never did anything to deserve it be it the pay nor the admiration. But I somehow find it easier to tolerate than Vince. Still though, I wouldn't want the band to go on without Glenn but those things also have weighed on my decision, admittedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawn View Post
    Irving Azoff quoted as the source by numerous media outlets including The Boot. I don't know if it is true or not but it is out there. Personally I think it is possible and don't know why Azoff would make this claim about when they got the idea to add Vince. What are your thoughts?

    "According to the Eagles’ manager, Irving Azoff, the idea of adding Gill to the band’s lineup came about during December’s Kennedy Center Honors ceremony, during which Gill helped pay tribute to the Eagles."

    The Boot
    http://theboot.com/vince-gill-the-ea...17-tour-dates/

    Edited to Add

    IIRC The rumors about the band "reuniting/reforming" began circulating in the media around March 2017. Not long after came the stunning news about Azoff's summer CLASSiC East and West, a bi-coastal 6 band stadium sized concert with the Eagles sharing headliner billing with Fleetwood Mac. Given the time needed to organize an event of this size, contracting with talent, the venues, vendors, etc I would imagine this was being planned well in advance. Of course we gotta believe it helps that Azoff manages most if not all the talent/bands.

    Summary ... From Kennedy Center Honors Dec 2016 to Summer Classic 2017 @ 6 months

    New Lineup Publicity Photos released. Rehearsals begin in LA and elsewhere
    We are presented with a timeline of:

    November 28, 2016: Henley says the Eagles are done, says the Eagles continuing without Glenn would be "desperate" and seem like "greed" in the Washington Post

    December 4, 2016: The Kennedy Center Honors take place, and Azoff gets the idea that Vince Gill would make a good addition to a "new" Eagles without Glenn

    March 2017: We hear that Don Henley has emerged from his "shock" and decided that actually it's a great idea - indeed, it's a noble endeavor - to continue the band without Glenn, with the addition of Vince Gill and Deacon Frey, just in time to headline for Azoff's Classic East/West festivals

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    What I don't understand is why they bothered pretending they weren't going to do this for so long. Did they want to wait until after Glenn had been dead at least a year before they declared their intentions for the sake of appearances, even though logistically they must been working on the arrangements only months after his death?

    SO tired of all the BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodascouts View Post
    We are presented with a timeline of:

    November 28, 2016: Henley says the Eagles are done, says the Eagles continuing without Glenn would be "desperate" and seem like "greed" in the Washington Post

    December 4, 2016: The Kennedy Center Honors take place, and Azoff gets the idea that Vince Gill would make a good addition to a "new" Eagles without Glenn

    March 2017: We hear that Don Henley has emerged from his "shock" and decided that actually it's a great idea - indeed, it's a noble endeavor - to continue the band without Glenn, with the addition of Vince Gill and Deacon Frey, just in time to headline for Azoff's Classic East/West festivals

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    What I don't understand is why they bothered pretending they weren't going to do this for so long. Did they want to wait until after Glenn had been dead at least a year before they declared their intentions for the sake of appearances, even though logistically they must been working on the arrangements only months after his death?

    SO tired of all the BS.
    Yes, I believe this was planned only two months after Glenn's death. In March 2016, Don gave an interview with a Montreal newspaper while on his CC Tour. He gave an interview then with a Montreal newspaper stating the only way he could see the Eagles regrouping was if Deacon was involved. He received all kinds of shit from the press and backtracked stating he was only mussing. I personally believed this was in consideration since than. I thing he/they felt they had to wait until a year after Glenn passed to make this whole thing seem more acceptable. This did not just happen over night.

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    Wow! That timeline was interesting. Things weren't certainly moving too slow.

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