Don in the Press/Blogs/etc.

[shunlvswx]

I didn't know Lorelei was 16 when she was dating Don. That's new to me.

Probably a lot of musicians from back then are very guilty of dating underage girls. Their parents probably didn't care since they were rock stars.

[Brooke]

It was pretty normal for older guys to date underage girls back then. And the girls were willing and chasing after them! Don't come back and say you weren't after 30+ years!

[shunlvswx]

It was pretty normal for older guys to date underage girls back then. And the girls were willing and chasing after them! Don't come back and say you weren't after 30+ years!

And then later that person writes a tell-all book about their time together or your time with other famous people. I guess its different from back in the day to today. You kinda can't get away with that today even if the parents signed a consent to say its ok for their child to date an older guy.

I'm guessing Don knew how old Lorelei was. I don't know if they know about his relationship with Lorelei, but I'm leaning toward the 1980 incident as for the reason Don's name was included on the list.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

Well - Here is what we know ...

Don was known for dating underage teenagers back in the day. However, there is no evidence that this was anything but consensual. And, he was, in fact, charged with contributing to the delinquency of minors in the 1980's incident. He pleaded 'no contest' and was convicted, fined, and put on probation. There was never any public record of any additional incidences after this. Now, I am not defending this behavior, other than to say it was a very different time with very different standards at the time as others have mentioned here. By today's standards, I guess you can make an argument that these 'girls' were abused, but it was certainly not perceived that way back then unless someone was forced to do something against their will.

However, I have to agree with what most others have said here. To me, this has nothing to do with whether or not Spotify (or any other music service or activist group) should ban his music. The public should be the ones to decide what and who they want to listen to, AFAIC. I strongly oppose this type of censorship.

[MaryCalifornia]

There is no such thing as "consensual" when one party is under the statutory age - the concept doesn't exist, its a legal impossibility.

I think the music streaming companies should have the right to include whoever they want on their roster. They're not telling us who we can or can't listen to. If they don't want to support or be associated with R. Kelly, fine with me. But they risk losing business. Some companies are fine with that. On the spectrum of bad-behaving musicians, I don't think Don Henley even makes it onto the low end of the spectrum! However, as Dreamer states, he does have a conviction against him, which isn't the case with many of the rumored alleged serial abusers. Bill Wyman dated a 13-year-old girl when he was 47 and married her five years later.

In the 1980 case, did the young woman who OD'd even make a complaint against Don? Have any women made public complaints to law enforcement that he abused them?

[Ive always been a dreamer]

I guess I didn't make it clear that I totally understand under the letter of the law that a minor cannot legally give consent to sexual acts. However, I did make the distinction that in the '70's, as a practical matter, as long as nothing occurred against someone's will, the perception was that it was considered to be consensual.

And, of course, Spotify has the right to do whatever they wish, but, as I said, I am, personally, very much opposed to this type of censorship.

[shunlvswx]

There is no such thing as "consensual" when one party is under the statutory age - the concept doesn't exist, its a legal impossibility.

I think the music streaming companies should have the right to include whoever they want on their roster. They're not telling us who we can or can't listen to. If they don't want to support or be associated with R. Kelly, fine with me. But they risk losing business. Some companies are fine with that. On the spectrum of bad-behaving musicians, I don't think Don Henley even makes it onto the low end of the spectrum! However, as Dreamer states, he does have a conviction against him, which isn't the case with many of the rumored alleged serial abusers. Bill Wyman dated a 13-year-old girl when he was 47 and married her five years later.

In the 1980 case, did the young woman who OD'd even make a complaint against Don? Have any women made public complaints to law enforcement that he abused them?

Not that we know of. So I'm going to say no. Their was a rumor last year that one of the girls was going to come out(which was supposed to happened around this time), but it looks like it was just a rumor and just gossip.

I knew about Don dated young women, but I didn't know about the underage dating. I was shocked to know that Lorelei was 16 when she was dating Don.

[sodascouts]

In the 1980 case, did the young woman who OD'd even make a complaint against Don? Have any women made public complaints to law enforcement that he abused them?

No. He was reported by the paramedics to police because the young girl was on drugs in his home, and he was found to have "contributed to her delinquency" by a judge as a result, but she pressed no charges or even informally claimed he abused her as far as I know. No other women have made any complaints that he abused them either.

I knew about Don dated young women, but I didn't know about the underage dating. I was shocked to know that Lorelei was 16 when she was dating Don.

If you want to know more about the relationship with Lorelei Shellist, I summarized what she said in Runway Runaway here.

[shunlvswx]

Thanks for that, Soda. Interesting summary you wrote about Don from the book.

[MaryCalifornia]

Thank you, Soda. "Sometimes to keep it together, you've got to leave it alone" is pretty much my favorite line from any Eagles song - I can't believe they didn't write it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ETA: I just Googled images of Lorelei Shellist - some of those photos look remarkably like Sharon Henley - he has a type