I'm now the new owner of a barely used 14 inch HP Pavilion laptop. My grandmother bought it for me from a local reputable pawn shop. It'll be my college laptop. It's got all the bells and whistles needed, except a cd-rom drive, and it has Windows 8 installed. My uncle and I are currently at my other uncle's house using his dsl to install 3 years of uodates! It's working great so far. 500 gig hard drive, 4 gigs of RAM, and fairly lightweight. Looks like it'll be a good laptop.