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Old 04-20-2018, 07:38 PM   #961
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In the new thread MC stated that reviews for HOTE were 'overwhelmingly positive' & the reviews for this tour are in line with those.

First of all, I disagree that the HOTE reviews were overwhelmingly positive. I remember a great deal of criticism. The point is that all that has now gone. To me it is suspicious. Where is the critical analysis of what Glenn's loss means musically? Where is any criticism of the two new musicians? I know I am against this lineup but I just don't believe that they are now as good as (or 'better') than they were. The implication from these reviews is that Glenn was dragging them down. All I want to see is some balance. Until I see it, I will question the veracity of these reviews.
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Old 04-21-2018, 01:43 AM   #962
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In the new thread MC stated that reviews for HOTE were 'overwhelmingly positive' & the reviews for this tour are in line with those.

First of all, I disagree that the HOTE reviews were overwhelmingly positive. I remember a great deal of criticism. The point is that all that has now gone. To me it is suspicious. Where is the critical analysis of what Glenn's loss means musically? Where is any criticism of the two new musicians? I know I am against this lineup but I just don't believe that they are now as good as (or 'better') than they were. The implication from these reviews is that Glenn was dragging them down. All I want to see is some balance. Until I see it, I will question the veracity of these reviews.
I agree FP. Where indeed. I hope in time someone will step up and answer your questions. I keep thinking of Cameron Crowe who met Glenn when he was a young writer for Rolling Stone and went on to cast him in Jerry Maguire. I wonder what he thinks about the band continuing without Glenn. Is he okay with it because of Deacon's presence? What does he think about Vince Gill? Is he aware there are fans who don't accept the lineup as legitimate and if so what would he say to us ... Get over it?

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Many people are unaware that Crowe was married to Nancy Wilson of Heart for many years.
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:56 PM   #963
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I totally agree with your post, FP. As I said in the other thread, these are all certainly legitimate questions to ponder.

But, I guess there are some apologists for this version of the band that will never criticize them no matter what. As I've said before, one should be able to approve of this version of the band, and still find room for criticism and questions. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 04-21-2018, 03:19 PM   #964
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I totally agree with your post, FP. As I said in the other thread, these are all certainly legitimate questions to ponder.

But, I guess there are some apologists for this version of the band that will never criticize them no matter what. As I've said before, one should be able to approve of this version of the band, and still find room for criticism and questions. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:04 PM   #965
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Maybe some of these reviewers don't want to tread on any toes. They may be accused of being 'insensitive' if they criticise a young guy who lost his father two years ago, just as those of us who are against this were criticised for raining on the parade. Maybe they're afraid to tell it like it is.

Because as I said, there is NO WAY these shows are the same as, or better than, the shows with Glenn Frey, and to imply that they are is insulting, demeaning & extremely disrespectful to Glenn Frey's memory.

But then as Soda said, his memory is being diminished every time they take the stage, whether they make the perfunctory comments or not.
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An intelligent veteran of the Fleetwood Mac boards named David wrote the following about the departure of Lindsey Buckingham from Fleetwood Mac and the band's "survival" without him, and I couldn't help but think how well it applied to the "Eagles" without Glenn:
"The notion of [the importance of the band's] survival doesn't mean all that much to me. The planet is filled with bands that have survived, but who wants to listen to them? I drive down the 215 and see a billboard for yet another Journey concert at one of the north county casinos, and I think 'Good Lord.' Journey survives but what's the point? Another year playing casinos and fairs milking the old hits made famous by the original singer? It really is just a paycheck at that point. If Fleetwood Mac wants to 'survive' and tour with strange new members, milking old hits made famous by the departed, it is just a paycheck. No interest to me. Those who find it interesting are in luck, certainly but I wonder whether they're kidding themselves. [...] This latest (and I hope last) incarnation will leave no lasting music, no legacy. The crowds will still flock, probably, and the money will roll in. The band just wants a paycheck, and they'll get a paycheck."
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Soda, I remember saying that perhaps some reviewers are amazed by Eagles' "survival story" and that's why they find everything so amazing. So I agree with this person in that "survival" alone doesn't make a band worth hearing/seeing, but it is not for me to say what drives those bands to go on.

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In the new thread MC stated that reviews for HOTE were 'overwhelmingly positive' & the reviews for this tour are in line with those.

First of all, I disagree that the HOTE reviews were overwhelmingly positive. I remember a great deal of criticism. The point is that all that has now gone. To me it is suspicious. Where is the critical analysis of what Glenn's loss means musically? Where is any criticism of the two new musicians? I know I am against this lineup but I just don't believe that they are now as good as (or 'better') than they were. The implication from these reviews is that Glenn was dragging them down. All I want to see is some balance. Until I see it, I will question the veracity of these reviews.
100% agreed. Especially the last two sentences.
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100% agreed. Especially the last two sentences.
I second that emotion.

Personally I have not given up hope that someone is paying attention especially given what has just transpired with Fleetwood Mac and that this person recognizes there is a much bigger and important story to be told then the one currently being peddled around.
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Once Fleetwood Max goes on tour and starts generating reviews of their new lineup it is going to be quite interesting to compare theirs with the Eagles.
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