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Old 04-23-2018, 06:15 PM   #51
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I agree that the Eagles sound has gotten worse since Glenn has left, as in they donít sound as Eaglesy. But what I meant is just on the basis of how the song is performed someone might like Vinceís take of tequila sunrise vs Glennís etc. or like Linda singing desperado vs Don. I think that how well they performed is less opinionated because we can hold them to their high standards but how Glennís version of a song is compared to another persons is more personal taste.
Well, here you go with the 'Glenn's voice didn't really matter' stuff. It's only 'personal taste 'whether you prefer his singing, whereas the overall performance has to do with 'high standards'.

Guess what: the vocals of someone who has sung the songs for six months cannot & never will match the vocals of someone who sang them for 40 years, and that is not just a matter of 'personal taste'. The decline in quality of the vocals on these songs, you may be surprised to hear, is going to lower the 'high standards'.

Also, regarding your previous post to which Toni replied & I agree, how on earth can there be a 'review' of these shows without drawing comparisons? Talk about rewriting history. That seems to be what the people who are in favour of this want.
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Old 04-23-2018, 06:45 PM   #52
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But what I meant is just on the basis of how the song is performed someone might like Vinceís take of tequila sunrise vs Glennís etc.
That would be very wrong IMO. I'm sorry if that sounds bad, but it just is wrong. I have a problem with that. If that sounds judgmental then I'm sorry but I do.

It's Glenn's song.
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Old 04-24-2018, 03:04 AM   #53
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I agree that the Eagles sound has gotten worse since Glenn has left, as in they donít sound as Eaglesy. But what I meant is just on the basis of how the song is performed someone might like Vinceís take of tequila sunrise vs Glennís etc. or like Linda singing desperado vs Don. I think that how well they performed is less opinionated because we can hold them to their high standards but how Glennís version of a song is compared to another persons is more personal taste.
Every reviewer sure seems to love Vince's performance on everything. And those who do mention Glenn seem to think the Glenn songs sung by Vince are at least as good now.
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Well, here you go with the 'Glenn's voice didn't really matter' stuff. It's only 'personal taste 'whether you prefer his singing, whereas the overall performance has to do with 'high standards'.

Guess what: the vocals of someone who has sung the songs for six months cannot & never will match the vocals of someone who sang them for 40 years, and that is not just a matter of 'personal taste'. The decline in quality of the vocals on these songs, you may be surprised to hear, is going to lower the 'high standards'.

Also, regarding your previous post to which Toni replied & I agree, how on earth can there be a 'review' of these shows without drawing comparisons? Talk about rewriting history. That seems to be what the people who are in favour of this want.
I didnít say Glennís voice didnít matter. I would find it absurd to think that itís impossible to like Vince gills voice more than Glennís. I do not feel that way but it is again a matter of opinion. That should not be controversial. It would be like saying someone cannot cover a song and do it better. I wouldnít blame someone if they felt Glenn sang take it to the limit better than Randy despite the fact that Randy was the original singer, and was famous for it. It is again a matter of what kind of voice you prefer. If someone was to say Randyís voice was the best in the band who am I to say no you cannot believe that? I happen to agree with you but the fact that I believe itís a matter of opinion leads to an argument. Why?
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Old 04-24-2018, 10:20 AM   #55
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That would be very wrong IMO. I'm sorry if that sounds bad, but it just is wrong. I have a problem with that. If that sounds judgmental then I'm sorry but I do.

It's Glenn's song.
I donít take any offense. I would also be put off by it but if someone was a big gill fan I would understand that belief
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Every reviewer sure seems to love Vince's performance on everything. And those who do mention Glenn seem to think the Glenn songs sung by Vince are at least as good now.
Donít get me wrong. Glenn was not treated fairly by reviews. Vince Gill has also been praised way too much. What Iím saying is he is still a very good singer and can perform the song well.
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Donít get me wrong. Glenn was not treated fairly by reviews. Vince Gill has also been praised way too much. What Iím saying is he is still a very good singer and can perform the song well.
I think I understand what you're saying. But I think that reviewers (not all of them anyway) shouldn't just look for a good performance of a song when the song has such a long history with its originator. That history should be acknowledged more IMO and the history of the band soundwise - when the band still performs under the same name.
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I think I understand what you're saying. But I think that reviewers (not all of them anyway) shouldn't just look for a good performance of a song when the song has such a long history with its originator. That history should be acknowledged more IMO and the history of the band soundwise - when the band still performs under the same name.
Yeah I suppose youíre right. Iím not sure what I was really getting at there. I do think reviews should focus primarily on the performance within the concert but context from the past is important as well.
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Well, here you go with the 'Glenn's voice didn't really matter' stuff. It's only 'personal taste 'whether you prefer his singing, whereas the overall performance has to do with 'high standards'.

Guess what: the vocals of someone who has sung the songs for six months cannot & never will match the vocals of someone who sang them for 40 years, and that is not just a matter of 'personal taste'. The decline in quality of the vocals on these songs, you may be surprised to hear, is going to lower the 'high standards'.
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Every reviewer sure seems to love Vince's performance on everything. And those who do mention Glenn seem to think the Glenn songs sung by Vince are at least as good now.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Vince Gill is no chump. He has won more Grammys than all the Eagles put together. He is from the country music genre, where you cannot possibly succeed unless you have the vocal goods and one cannot simply rely on gimmicks, a sexy image, etc. as some rock/pop acts have (although that may not be the case anymore now that country has changed). I donít get why itís so shocking to some that reviewers consistently praise his performances. Itís one thing to say his voice doesnít suit the songs or doesnít appeal to oneís personal taste but as far as ďqualityĒ goesóHenley chose him for a reason.

Rather than conjuring up conspiracy theories or bashing reviewers, maybe itís to accept that, for reviewers like much of the public, Vince is a damn fine singer.

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Also, regarding your previous post to which Toni replied & I agree, how on earth can there be a 'review' of these shows without drawing comparisons? Talk about rewriting history. That seems to be what the people who are in favour of this want.
Concert reviews should be focused on the performances, IMO. If there were comparisons to be made, they should have been made last summer/fall when this whole enterprise was getting off the ground. Glenn has been gone for almost 2 1/2 years nowóand he will never be forgottenóbut I do believe the reviewers have struck the right balance between evaluating the performances and remembering Glennís contributions. As a fan of Bernie, Randy and Don F, I understand ďrewriting historyĒ and I donít see how that is happening with Glenn.

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Donít get me wrong. Glenn was not treated fairly by reviews. Vince Gill has also been praised way too much. What Iím saying is he is still a very good singer and can perform the song well.
How is Glenn not being treated fairly? Heís not in the band anymore!
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:16 PM   #60
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Delilah, you quoted my post, but I have never talked about the quality of Vince as a singer. What I meant was that every reviewer seems to think that his voice works perfectly for every song Glenn (or Randy) sang. Nothing to do with Grammys. (I'm not talking about "fake reviews" either although this thread is about them.)

Celine Dion is a fabulous singer, but people don't necessarily love her interpretation of every song.

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