Phil Collins / Genesis

[Freypower]

and....

The first thing I read when I got up & looked at my phone. Regarding drumming, first he says this:

After this latest surgery, however, his doctor is hopeful he could return to the kit. “He said to me, ‘If you want to play drums again, all you have to do is practice.'”

Then, later in the astonishing part about a possible Genesis reunion, he says:

Also, I can’t play drums, so I can’t do what I did. I just want to settle with the bits of me that I can possibly do.”

He does say he can play piano. Come on Phil. But for now welcome back & Australia indeed awaits.

[sodascouts]

Exciting news!

[chaim]

and....

The first thing I read when I got up & looked at my phone. Regarding drumming, first he says this:

After this latest surgery, however, his doctor is hopeful he could return to the kit. “He said to me, ‘If you want to play drums again, all you have to do is practice.'”

Then, later in the astonishing part about a possible Genesis reunion, he says:

Also, I can’t play drums, so I can’t do what I did. I just want to settle with the bits of me that I can possibly do.”

He does say he can play piano. Come on Phil. But for now welcome back & Australia indeed awaits.

Maybe he was thinking of the more complicated drumming style of the Gabriel era. Perhaps he would be able to play more simple stuff if he practiced, but not the prog stuff.

[Funk 50]

There's a little update on the Collins un-retired story.

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news...-peter-gabriel

It'd be tough for Phil to drum behind Gabriel, even without his lengthy hiatus. Phil did drum on his Going Back album but that was pretty straight forward compared to the early Genesis stuff on my amateurish opinion.

I bet Phil would feel like a spare part if he wasn't doing the bulk of the drumming and I wouldn't want him tinkering about on Tony's keyboards.

I really hope they can put something together, including Gabriel and Hackett, maybe Ray Wilson too in the future. A Banks, Collins, Rutherford reunion is still something to look forward too.

[Freypower]

The thing is though he hasn't done the bulk of the drumming live since Gabriel left. That's why it would make more sense for it to be him, Tony & Mike (with Daryl & Chester, obviously).

I don't wish to embark on another discussion about whether or not fans are justified in wanting Gabriel and/or Hackett to be part of a reunion. I understand it & I guess I'd be fascinated by it. I can't see Gabriel wanting to do it & I'm afraid that since the documentary, Hackett's attitude has been eerily similar to Don Felder's.

The reality is however that Collins sang on many more Genesis albums than Gabriel, no matter how passionate the Gabriel fans are about the earlier albums. I think it would be... awkward....if Gabriel were singing & Collins could only do harmonies. We know, however, that Collins can sing Gabriel's songs & did it for a lot longer than Gabriel himself did.

This is a brilliant article from the same site about Peter vs Phil:

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/feat...s-phil-collins

[chaim]

Personally I don't see any similarities between Hackett and Felder. Don has constantly bashed one of his ex-band mates, while Steve, as far as I know, has recently complained only about the people who edited his contributions out of the documentary - not his ex-band mates. At least Tony has said in public that the way Steve was treated in the documentary was unfair, but I think all of the "classic five" would agree. To this day I haven't seen Steve say anything bad about any of the Genesis guys. He may have said that his ideas weren't accepted, but I have never seen him bash anyone. He would never call Tony Banks "bipolar", for example, in public. Not a chance. He's too much of a gentleman for that - even if that's how he felt, which he doesn't.

[Freypower]

Personally I don't see any similarities between Hackett and Felder. Don has constantly bashed one of his ex-band mates, while Steve, as far as I know, has recently complained only about the people who edited his contributions out of the documentary - not his ex-band mates. At least Tony has said in public that the way Steve was treated in the documentary was unfair, but I think all of the "classic five" would agree. To this day I haven't seen Steve say anything bad about any of the Genesis guys. He may have said that his ideas weren't accepted, but I have never seen him bash anyone. He would never call Tony Banks "bipolar", for example, in public. Not a chance. He's too much of a gentleman for that - even if that's how he felt, which he doesn't.

Thanks for clearing that up Toni. I wasn't sure, to be honest.

[chaim]

Thanks for clearing that up Toni. I wasn't sure, to be honest.

On a personal note I'd like to add that, unlike Don, Steve has maintained a respectable (and LONG) solo career and he's kept the original "proggy" spirit alive in his music. I don't mean that his stuff is better than what Genesis did later, but IMO it was good that someone kept that alive as well. So in this light it was, IMO, inexcusable that his solo career was completely ignored in the documentary about a band that started as a kind of prog band.

I may have been a bit harsh in my previous post. I haven't seen every single interview Steve has given, but in the interviews I've seen he has complained about the documentary, not about his ex-band mates. And I've never seen any of the Genesis guys badmouth the other guys, so I find it hard to believe that Steve would have started it now. I've seen the Genesis guys be critical about each other, but never in a mean way.

Thanks for the Peter vs Phil link, by the way!

[Funk 50]

I don't know how you'd cover Steve's solo career in a Genesis documentary. He's released a constant stream of albums since leaving Genesis but none stand out. I don't think he's even released a "Best Of" compilation.

I'm sure any Genesis reunion would be a success but a reunion of the Gabriel line up, like a reunion of the original Eagles line up, would allow, all those millions of fans, that missed it the first time around, to experience a little bit of the magic that they created.

Maybe Def Leppard's, one armed drummer, Rick Allen can give Phil a call and offer him the word or two of encouragement he seems to need to get serious behind the drum kit again..

My brother says, if Phil can't play the drums, maybe Pete will let him take over his kick drum



Thanks from me too, Freypower, for the link to the Pete v Phil article. The stick that Phil gets from some so-called music fans is ignorant and downright mean so I'm always pleased to see journalists who goodmouth him.

[chaim]

No one bought Tony's solo albums, and yet they were discussed in the documentary. Steve has said that he was interviewed about his solo career, and he spent time discussing it. Then it was all edited out. Personally I'm not saying that they should have covered all of Steve's albums, but they could at least have mentioned that he continued to make music after leaving Genesis! I can't say this for a fact, but I understand that Steve's solo career has been far more successful than Tony's. But they decided to ignore his solo career completely. Why did they interview Steve about his solo career then? I can understand Steve's anger. I would feel exactly the same.