For anyone interested, I got notification of this today:
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_204...our?source=rss
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For anyone interested, I got notification of this today:
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_204...our?source=rss
Nice! Very excited to see them in June.
If you're a Beach Boys fan, I HIGHLY recommend you both go see them and buy the new album. The album is great and the show even better. They play for almost 3 hours (45+ songs!). They sound fantastic and know how to please a crowd.
I'm sure by now many of you have heard that Mike Love is flexing his muscle and has fired Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and David Marks from the lineup. I, for one, can't imagine spending my money in the future to see a Beach Boys concert that doesn't include them. Here is the link for the story that appeared in the LA Daily News (the same or similar articles are popping up everywhere). I find very interesting the Eagles reference about a third of the way thru the article and can't recall a time where our boys lowered their admission price to $5!
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_216...son?source=rss
Even it it's a typo and it's supposed to be $50, I don't remember that, either. Just goes to prove that Mike Love has lost touch with reality on a number of things. I can tell you I'd not spend $5 to see the Beach Boys without Brian Wilson. In fact, if they showed up at my house and wanted to play in my yard for free I'd probably ask them to leave.
Is he trying to say that the Eagles had trouble selling tickets after they reunited?...and as far as his version of The Beach Boys...he ought to be ashamed of himself...and I hope no one goes to the concerts...it's sort of like Timothy being able to fire Don and Glenn!
Ok this is insane....
What are the beachboys without Brian Wilson??
I mean he is the Beach boys.
I think the eagles quote is so out of line...
54 or 50 is unheard of
tt
The alleged statement about the Eagles is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read. The last thing the Eagles have been since their reformation is 'over-exposed' and as for selling tickets for $5 please give me a break.
That Beach Boys reunion was never going to last. They hate each other too much.
This is a total outrage. How can he do this? I wonder how Love became the sole owner of the Beach Boys name? Boy, that must have been some deal gone wrong?
As for Eagles tickets, well the HFO tour, tickets were $50. I have my ticket stubs from 2 shows. It well may be that in the 70's tickets were $5., as that was the price of most concerts from the 70's. Yeah, that's how all us old people got to see every amazing band out there, the tickets really were $5. Oh, yeah, & sometimes you got to see 2 amazing bands for $5...:nahnah:
Hard to believe, but true!
TK - you must be talking about the cheapest of the cheapest Eagles tickets. An Eagles ticket may have been around $5.00 in the very early days of the band, but by the mid-to-late 70's, I believe they were running around $12.50 - $15.00 for the good seats. I remember because I actually wanted to go to a concert, but couldn't afford it. As far as ticket prices for HFO, again, the cheapest seats may have been $50.00, but most of the tickets were going for over $100.00. In fact, the Eagles were one of, if not the first band, to charge over $100.00 for a ticket at that time.
I don't have any actual ticket stubs from an Eagles show in the 70's, but I do recall a lot of shows being $5. & not just the cheapest seats. It really depends on the venue. All concerts were in that price range in the early 70's, even for bands much bigger than the Eagles. I guess maybe $12-15 was later in the 70's. It's all a little fuzzy now!!!LOL
My seats for HFO were $50. for the lower tier at the Giants Stadium. These were the best we were able to get. I don't remember if there were $100. seats, but that is possible. As I recall these were very good seats.
Well some of the 70's stuff is fuzzy for me too, so I'm not going to get in a debate with anyone over ticket prices. But I do know that sometime around the mid-to late 70's, I really wanted to go to an Eagles concert but couldn't afford a $12 - $15 ticket. There may have been cheaper seats available, but if so, I don't recall that.
As far as the HFO prices, all I know is that the bests seats in most venues went for over $100.
Back in March '94 the LA Times ran an article entitled "Concert Prices Taken to the Limit?" in which there was a great deal of criticism and speculation about the "over $100" cost for admission - first for the Eagles and shortly thereafter for Streisand. I wish I could find the actual article but haven't been able to dig it up. Nobody had ever done it before and there were a lot of critics who were certain the band would play to mostly empty venues if they didn't drop the price! I guess the critics ended up eating a lot of humble pie because the fans didn't let cost stop them.
I do remember there being a big stink about prices going over $100, but today that seems like a bargain. I think concert prices are just so out of control. I mean think of a teenager that may want to take a date to a concert? Now that date cost about $300. & that's not even for a top band, and parking, & whatever other costs are invoved... That really kind of sucks. When I was a teenager, I went to a concert every weekend, maybe even more than one. Now, for kids, that's probably not possible. How many teens have that kind of money?
THE ONLY CHEAP CONCERT TX THING I CAN REMEMBER IS WHEN THE SPECTRUM WAS CLOSING...THE LAST CONCERT THERE WAS hALL AND OATES AND tODD RUDGREN AND hOOTERS (ALL PHILLY BANDS) AND THEY DID A CHEAP SEATS THING LIKE $2.94 OR SOMETHING SIMILIAR TO MIRROW THE PRICES WHEN THEY FIRST PLAYED THERE. cOOL IDEA.TX SOLD OUT IN A BLINK.
lAST TIME WE SAW THE EAGLES AT THE WACOVIA BEFORE A THANKSGIVING...THERE HAD BEEN THREE OFFICERS KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY AND gf TALKED ABOUT THE OFFICERS FAMILYS BEING THERE AND OTHER OFFICERS FAMILIES BEING THERE AS GUESTS OF THE BAND. sO COOL THE BAND GOT A STANDING OVATION. i WILL ALWAYS REMEBER THAT MOMENT. SO GRACIOUS.:thumbsup:
TT:thumbsup:
Well to bring this thread back on topic about The Beach Boys, I just realized that I didn't comment about this. I'm not sure what Mike Love is thinking, but I sure hope it backfires. I guess he must have a pretty big ego, but I doubt if Mike Love is the first name that comes to most people's minds when you mention The Beach Boys. I like zelda's analogy that it's kind of like Tim firing Glenn and Don from the Eagles. Go figure!
Surely he knows that ticket sales will plummet now. I guess whatever issues they have with each other outweigh everything else.
And that statement about the Eagles is astoundingly inaccurate. Maybe Love has them confused with some other band. He doesn't seem to be thinking too straight lately.
This article was posted in the LA Times regarding the Beach Boys with many references to the statement about the Eagles, the $5 ticket prices, & relationship with them. Apparently there was a BB/ Eagles show with tickets at $5, on June 21, 1975 at Wembley Stadium...Interesting article
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...,7962939.story
Wow! What a fiasco. I sure hope pressure from the fans will bring Mike Love to his senses. We'll have to see. His publicist sure did back down in a New York Minute to the letter from the Eagles as well he should have. :thumbsup:
LOL! Care packages!! What, did he send them some chocolate, jelly, coffee, and bath salts to show he's truly, truly sorry?Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Times
Ah well. At least he is trying to make it up; got to give him credit for that.
The letter from the Eagles is quite personally insulting to Mike Love. I had no idea there were such hard feelings. Glenn speaks so highly of the Beach Boys and Tim has even recoded with them. I guess it's more Brian Wilson they have affection for; perhaps they are outraged on his behalf and it added heat to their response.
JMO I think that the respect is for Brian wilson ...he is the genius of the band..again jmo.
Care packages???? Like that would make up for shooting off your mouth and offending the.
What a mess..so shameful that egos:evil: get in the way.
tt
Yeah, that part about the "care packages" really cracked me up. Something that manager dreamed up, no doubt!!! What the heck do you give the Eagles in a care package?
I was just at ticketsnow.com and see there are four more BB shows scheduled before the end of the year. I wonder how many people already bought tickets? Would serve Mike Love right if they all demanded their money back -- I certainly would because I'd feel like I was duped.
OMG I just read this all....:hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:...that care package thing is a hoot!!!...but VOL...I definitely like the way you think!!!...this whole thing just keeps getting crazier!
Yeah, but seriously, what kind of goodies do you think that guy gave them? I mean they can afford pretty much anything they want!! I really wonder what he gave them!
tk is wright. what do you give them???
the whole idea is a slap in the face.
He just opens his mouthe for publicity that mike love.
tt
And the saga continues...
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/...a-a025742c090e
Wow. What gives with this guy.
How can you fire the guy who is the beach boys?
It all feels so dirty. He basically used Brian, Al and David to make a buck and now that he's got enough for now the hell with them. There are no Beach Boys without Brian and Al.
I think he is really insulting all the Beach Boys fans out there!
Frontman Mike Love of The Beach Boys has allowed fans of The Beach Boys to learn even more about the band and the bands history of over fifty years with his latest book Good Vibrations: My Life As A Beach Boys.
In his book, Love talks about how his family wound up in Southern California living on a beach in a tent, as well as the story of the relationship with the Wilson cousins – and what it was like growing up. Love’s book also dives into the unique American story of The Beach Boys, from their California roots to their international fame. Being the only band member to be part of this history each and every step, Love takes readers through the various ups and downs of the band’s history as well as “behind the scenes” stories of the band and the stories behind some of their most popular songs. Listen to an excerpt of one of the chapters of his book here.
The book is also available in a holiday bundle which includes a hardcover book, tshirt, and Christmas CD; perfect for Beach Boys fans this holiday season and now at a reduced price than before which can be found here.
What devoted Beach Boys fan wouldn’t want to know more about one of their favorite bands? You can find the book at Penguin Random House Books online (Hardcover, AudioBook or eBook), Amazon (Kindle, Hardcover or Paperback Book ), Walmart (Hardcover Book) or Barnes & Noble (Hardcover Book).
Mike has also decided to surprise fans with a song that is perfect for this Holiday season! He is giving his song, “You’ll Never Be Alone On Christmas Day” away FOR FREE over on Noisetrade.
I'm not responding to the spam/whatever-you-call-it promoting Mike Love's book. However, I did read said book and enjoyed it. It was immediately after I read Brian's autobiography. The two cousins are complimentary, respectful and occasionally loving towards each other, as friends and colleagues with a lifelong and incredibly complex relationship.
Mike's explanation about the abrupt end of the 50th year reunion makes a lot of sense. That doesn't mean I think it was Brian's "fault." As Mike argues convincingly, there are people in Brian's life who control him and make decisions for him. For reasons of their own, they often create drama and conflict in Brian's business and career affairs. Perhaps worst of all, they convince Brian that his family isn't really for him and doesn't have his best interest at heart. Even Carl Wilson said this years ago. The difference is that Mike Love names names, whereas usually Beach Boys insiders will only hint at the controllers around Brian.
It's just a shame that a vulnerable man - with a steady stream of songwriting royalties - inevitably attracts sharks who take advantage.
I've never been a huge Beach Boys fan because of all the Chuck Berry ripoffs in the first era of the band, the surfing songs, etc. I really didn't find creativity.
To me where they really got creative was Pet Sounds, and that is Brian Wilson. There is a huge difference between a song like God Only Knows and Surfin' USA.
I recently watched Love & Mercy.
Brian was and is a troubled man. Schizophrenia or the milder form (schizoaffective/schizophreniform disorder) is nothing to take lightly. Therapy does very little when it comes to psychotic disorders like Schizophrenia. They don't respond to talk therapy the way a depressed or anxious/OCD person would. You can't make hallucinations go away by telling them to get lost. Someone like John Nash was able to ignore them long enough to not notice them along with medication and insulin shock therapy, but that's a rare example of self-control.
But the thing that GOT me is that I couldn't get over how inappropriate Dr. Eugene Landy was...OMG. I thought it was dramatized for film, but I did the digging and I was shocked. So unprofessional, with lots of transference and countertransference going on (to use some therapist's terms). There is a video of him talking to a interviewer with Brian and Brian is basically in his lap and they have their arms around each other. In pictures, you'd think they were partners.
Landy admitted his brand of therapy was unorthodox, but it was ultimately unethical and hence Melinda Ledbetter and others getting him out of the picture. He made a killing off of Brian financially and the band and totally was in it for the money. I think that's a case of the psychologist should be the patient, lol. He clearly had issues and I think that's why his license was pulled. And then he buddied up to a psychiatrist and had Brian medicated per his request on order.
Looking back, Brian probably did need antipsychotic medication, but I think Landy used it as a weapon. If Brian wouldn't comply with Landy or disagree, he'd be medicated. I highly recommend watching the YouTube videos about Landy. There was a Beach Boys BAND meeting where Brian spoke against Landy, Landy called a break, forced Brian to take pills, and returned to the meeting with his eyes rolled back in his head from the major tranquilizers he was administered by EL.
As far as Melinda, I have mixed feelings. I think she was a great person to come into his life and remove him from bad people like Landy, but sometimes I wonder if she isn't a bit controlling over his affairs, and that's what Mike Love is talking about. I don't think I'd want my life partner to be my manager if I was famous. That's just asking for trouble. It's like a Yoko Ono/Beatles type situation. Hmm.
But yeah, for me no Brian no Beach Boys. I only care about the era where he took control and took it from simple surf rock tunes to something with meaning.
@WalshFan88
Have you heard Brian Wilson's solo album 'Lucky Old Sun'. Others seem to disagree, but I think it is his best solo album. The whole thing just seems to work. For me, at least.
Here's a song off it. However, it's one of the more rock-and-roll ones, but it's on youtube.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD4GUErAEM8[/ame]
If you like the Smile era BB more, then you might like the album BW did with Van Dyke Parks, 'Orange Crate Art'. More challenging and it took me a bit of time to get into it, but now I have I think it's a good album. The title track is a good indication of what the album is like.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbQcmK72bo[/ame]
Apologies if you didn't want these unsolicited recommendations.
My beef with the "Love & Mercy" film is that it very much downplays the role that Brian's brother Carl and their mom Audree played in getting Dr. Landy out of Brian's life. Melinda was the producer of the film, so of course she's made out to be a saint and Brian's savior. Some artistic license there, methinks.
Austin, I think you're selling the other Beach Boys' contributions a bit short! No one can match their heavenly vocals. Compare "Can't Wait Too Long" from Lucky Old Sun to the BB's released in 1990 as a bonus track on the Smiley Smile/Wild Honey compilation, originally recorded in 1966-67.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKhb-BJDJT4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKhb-BJDJT4[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIc-39ewcGk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIc-39ewcGk[/ame]
Also compare the Beach Boys' "Our Prayer" with the version done by Brian's band. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqXibjCZy5Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqXibjCZy5Y[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3LNn7HGyE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS3LNn7HGyE[/ame]