Thanks Pricellaupstate!
So in addition to a potential 40-50 city tour next year there are plans for "... some kind of world tour at the end of the decade to run over a couple of years."
Will Vince be on board too, I guess we will know more when they make their formal announcement.
The NY Daily News is pretty lame, so it'll be interesting to see what a more reputable news source says - one whose first line doesn't refer to "Glen Frey."
In other words, is this anything new, or is this just more of the same... that Deacon will be touring with them, and that they plan to keep going as long as they can physically drag themselves out onto the stage and croak out the vocals.
That’s crazy to me that they would do a world tour near the end of the decade. I do get doing some international stuff as they have only done events in the states but a couple years from now I’m not sure how well they will be able to do it anymore. Don talks about wanting to travel with his kids so maybe he wants to do it through the Eagles? Who knows. I remember asking my dad to get tickets to the classic east thinking it would be the final concert they would preform. How wrong I was!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
I don't even know what to say to this. Playing till they are 75? Will they have the energy and will their voices last another five years? I'm surprised that Deacon would want to spend another five years doing this instead of exploring other venues with musicians his own age. Where does this leave Vince and his career ? This just sounds crazy to me.
Deacon is basically foregoing having his own identity for several years, singing his father's songs, playing his father's music, living his father's life...but he'll be well compensated. He obviously thinks it's worth it.
Vince hasn't had much of a solo career, so it's no great loss to give it up for the so-called Eagles if he doesn't mind playing second fiddle... And it appears he doesn't.
That's basically how I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
Do you guys think Deacon is talented enough to go on his own and do his own thing? I think he’s pretty good but not he’s not the star his dad was. I think it’s a wise decision from his end as he can improve himself for a couple years get some more recognition before he decides to go on his own. I’m also afraid the music the Eagles play isn’t exactly mainstream anymore so if he likes the stuff the Eagles play, finding a market to grow might be hard. It’s a tough but exciting place for him to be
Bit hesitant to post here, but this seems to be where the discussion is.
At present we know nothing of Deacon's songwriting ability. He can sing and play, but in terms of going out on his own he needs songs. There has been discussion in the past that many artists who don't write their own songs, e.g. in C&W.
I suspect that there will be a Deacon Frey album at some time. But, probably some time in the future. As said above, he has time to work on it.
"The “Hotel California” hit makers". :grin: Well, true, Don and Joe are still there. Anyway, perhaps Deacon has plans for himself at the same time he's doing this. The Eagles thing isn't necessarily the only thing he's doing. An interview with him would help. Otherwise we can only speculate.
Taking a positive view, it seems that they must be all feeling in good health and capable of continuing for another four years.
(Of course, now the precedent has been set, they could continue without Timothy or Joe or even Don)
I'd like to see Deacon sing a song or two of his own at the concerts. I think it's been suggested before that maybe he could try to write with one or more of the other guys? He's got some good songwriters to learn from. If he doesn't seem to have much songwriting ability, it would be nice to see him sing a new song or two written by somebody else. Just MHO.Quote:
Originally Posted by YoungEaglesFan
As to forgoing his life and living his father's, it's nice that people here make that conclusion about him. He obviously doesn't feel the same way. As you say, he's well compensated. Also, I'm sure he's learning a lot, and he's said that he finds it healing -- no small consideration when you've lost your dad at a fairly young age.
He's still a very young man. He may very well be looking at these 4 or 5 years as an amazing internship. I mean how many musicians get to learn from, and play with the likes of Don Henley, Joe Walsh, and Vince Gill. Talk about different styles of music that you can just pick these guys brains about.
I don't see him foregoing anything. It's actually refreshing to see someone his age, capable of delayed gratification. It seems like he doesn't feel the need to act now, go now, do now. He's content to learn a craft, hone it...and will probably be better off for it.
People forget that he was not even a professional musician before all this.
You can't expect him to be able to write songs just because he's Glenn Frey's son.
Maybe Gill and Frey are just having a ball touring/playing/singing as part of the Eagles. Doesn't seem like a bad gig to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
Now all they need to do to sell the whole shebang is to "get the widow on the set!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
Stay Tuned!
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I'm reminded of Glenn's explanations of going solo in the 80s. It was along the lines of needing to be in a group in your twenties but when you're in your thirties, it's time to set off on your own. He compared it to joining an established (legal?) practice until you're ready to set up your own practice.
If nothing else, Deacon will have learned that a musical career can last a life time. He will also have known many people who have had long careers in the business without ever becoming a star. Does anyone despise Steuart Smith, Scott Crago, Michael Thompson or any of the other musicians who play with the Eagles?
Exactly. I mean other than the times his dad ever brought him onstage, was he ever heavily into music to begin with? Especially "classic" music. He might have just learned to play and had other interests that he cared about more.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
I don't think Deacon is the songwriting type, but we'll see. I'd much rather see him doing his own thing with a new group or solo than be a caricature of his dad. Or if there is an interest outside of music, go pursue that. Be your own person.
Oh I'm sure they love it, no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlanketMan
That doesn't mean that others don't have a problem with it.
There's just something about Vince Gill's excitement for this that rubs me wrong, coming from a "friend" of Glenn's. As Soda said, I think his solo career wasn't as big as some might imagine and I think he would be more than willing to give it up to go be a pretend Eagle and ride on those coattails. Me, I think he's a good musician but I think his music is overrated and I think he wasn't as successful as others of his era. So I think he will latch on to anything to build himself up.
Deacon, I just really hope he will do his own thing. Music or otherwise. But standing in the shadows of your dad is not exactly healthy IMO. It looks bad.
"It looks bad." To whom, exactly? Amazing that the critics are now turning on Deacon in the name of protecting your feelings toward Glenn. How warm and fuzzy, folks. I'm sure Glenn would be thrilled at the idea of throwing his son under the bus in his name. Keep it up. It looks GREAT.
I think it's totally possible that "behind the scenes" Deacon is indeed doing something on his own. Just not on a grand scale.
I agree with the others that I don’t think Deacon will forge his own path. I think he enjoys playing in the band and will do so for as long as they let him do it. I think that it’s fine for him to Ride on his dad’s legacy for a little while but once the band is done he should try to do his own thing in music or do whatever he wants that isn’t music related
Deacon must have had thoughts about some kind of "path" of his own. What was he doing before his father passed away? Just sitting at home and practicing his father's guitar and vocal parts?
EDIT:
There may be a lot of stuff happening in Deacon's life in terms of work that we don't see - whether it's playing in a band of his own or delivering pizza. Not everything in one's life happens in the "Eagles scale". Maybe this Eagles thing does help the healing process.
Spare me the outrage. He's been treated with kid gloves around here since the beginning of all of this precisely because he's Glenn's son. The fact that a frank discussion about his lack of musical chops causes you to turn red in the face is a great example of the eggshells some expect us to walk upon when we talk about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleInKansas
You do realize that it's perfectly legitimate to discuss such things when you're talking about a musician, right?
New interview with Don about the Eagles’ future and the HC re-release
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/fe...future-w511253
Thanks Philh
What are your plans for 2018 – more touring, the studio?
There is nothing etched in stone. Deacon wants to start writing. I think our management is holding some venues, as managers are wont to do. Everyone is so tired from the last two years, what we've been through, that we need a break. After the holidays, as we have traditionally done, we will get together in January and talk about what we want to do – whether we want to do anything, how much we want to do, when to do it. As Glenn used to say, we run this band on a yearly basis. That's still the way it is.
This interview was on October 30, 2017 less than a month ago.
Well, it appears Deacon does want to become a songwriter after all!
So, I guess they decided not to wait until January...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodascouts
My guess is that prior to joining the guys, Deacon was doing the exact same thing that Don's 2 adult children, Timothy's 3 children, Joe's children and Taylor Frey are all currently doing. Other than a brief little run in the '90s for Jeddrah and Lucy's acting, it doesn't seem any of them have "careers" or have made anything of themselves that the public would know about. They all have "interests." I'm sure some of them are very wealthy and probably don't generate any income and just hang out, doing what they enjoy and being with family.
And Deacon is in the same position. It seems to me that the guys invited him so he was like, "Sure!" I don't think there's much to read into it or debate and there shouldn't be any philosophical question about how he is living his life. Obviously he has the musical chops, they're not propping him up. It's totally fair to critique his performances, but for people on here to presume to tell him what he should do with his life is mind-boggling.
Yeah, there's really no need for us to make value judgments on Deacon's choices. What's the point of that? Our approval or disapproval matters not one whit. I can see how some of the posts may have stepped into this area a bit, so we should make an effort to stay out of this zone.
However, we should be able to discuss musical aspects of his role in this venture without fear of melodramatic outbursts.
I also see no problem with curiosity about who he was before all this, what he might be interested in outside of this venture, etc., although perhaps an extended discussion of it should take place in his thread.
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Originally Posted by sodascouts
Agreed.
Same with Vince Gill. BTW I presume he's staying on with the Eagles indefinitly as well?
Outrage, soda? That's hilarious. No one said we should treat Deacon with kid gloves, but is anyone actually evaluating his talent or ability, or just the decision-making that's none of our business? Meanwhile, my comments should be "spared" while this thread is full of personal attacks against the band members for whom this entire website is dedicated. And now they're extending to Deacon, who doesn't deserve any of those petty, small remarks. Mostly because he is great. I was hoping the attacks would be beneath an Eagles-fan community that I have been mostly thrilled to be a part of for my entire life, but I have been proven wrong. My bad. I guess I should stop before I work myself into another outrage. I'll save the rest for the next inevitable reply to something ridiculous.
The one article I read about Deacon when this all was announced in March 2017, Deacon said he began playing guitar at age seven on "a baby Martin" Glenn bought for him. So some sort of musical desire was there. I saw last year on his FB page that he went school to study music production/ engineering. I think he has posted stuff on soundcloud(or whatever it's called). He appears to like hip hop type music like most of the kids his age. He certainly has talent, and the RS article in another thread Don stated he(Deacon) had wanted to start writing music. Deacon is 24. When Glenn wrote TIE he was 21-22 years-old. In an old you tube interview I saw years ago, Glenn said he was 23 when hie wrote TS and Desperado. As to Deacon's writing ability, I guess we will have to wait and see. I do hope he eventually pursues his own career - he appears to have the talent necessary. Certainly less talented people have made it in the music business.Quote:
Originally Posted by WalshFan88
PS - I would love to know when all those dates were booked for the tour next year. I'll bet they were in the process of being booked due to time constraints, before that interview was given.
AS A SIDE NOTE: Like it or not, Deacon is now a very visible public figure. As such, he will have to get use to any criticism and of course praise written/said about him just like any other public figure. Not to sound mean or nasty - it is just fact.
Like it or not, Deacon is not immune from criticism just because he is Glenn's son. When he chose to take on this role, he opened himself up to criticism from those who see this as wrong. Truth is, we have been mostly treating him with kid gloves but it shouldn't be that way. Maybe we shouldn't comment on the value of his decisions, but his benefit to the band musically and the right or wrong-ness of those decisions of it is much to be discussed. He made his choices. That's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleInKansas
If Deacon truly loves music, then I am ALL for more younger people playing guitar and music. But I still think he should forge his own path. I'm not a hiphop fan but I'd give his music a listen and if I like what I hear, buy it without any reservation. I want Deacon to succeed, but as his own musician. I really do.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Kid In Town
If anything, I hope his time in the "Eagles", will put him into a broader light so he has a chance to succeed in music unlike most that are uber talented but never get discovered.
Good food for thought NKIT, thanks!
To your point, when he was just starting out Glenn was hungry (both literally and figuratively) and believed that writing their own songs was the key to the level of success he hoped/wanted to achieve for the band. In Deacon's case, he approaches somgwriting from a different perspective but one that is uniquely his own. I really wish him all the best.
Second, Glenn warned of getting too enmeshed in the rock and roll lifestyle and the demands of touring and recording certainly took their toll on Glenn and the others. I trust the lessons learned have not been in vain.
I'm going to leave this here just so we can all read it and marvel without it being surrounded by equally uninsightful comments.Quote:
Originally Posted by WalshFan88
Go ahead then, WalshFan, criticize Deacon. Have at it. What a fan you are. Better than me, that's for sure. You'll criticize Deacon Frey, like it or not. So brave. Take the shots. Not going to participate or even attempt to enjoy his contributions, but you'll be the first to line up when it's time to attack. What a fun existence! I wish I could learn to hate something that I've always loved, but dammit, I can't come up with the great things to say like "Like it or not." Tell us more, WalshFan. We're all so lucky to hear the thoughts of a guy willing to take shots at a 24-year-old with the gall to sing Already Gone. IN PUBLIC!!!!!
Enjoy his contributions? I think it's pretty clear by now, EIK, that I DON'T. So I'm not a fan because I despise the new lineup, which is not even really the Eagles to me. Some ego you must have to put yourself on a higher perch because you are ok with this and we are not. But just for the record, I really don't care what you think of me or my "existence". Standing up for what I believe is right and equally calling out things I believe to be wrong is not a bad thing, as you seem to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleInKansas
But by all means, keep patting yourself on the back through sarcastic posts to make yourself feel better about my disliking the Eagles continuing without Glenn. Do whatever it takes to help you sleep at night! I won't judge you. Adios. ;)
EIK - Your comments to Austin were very nasty and uncalled for IMO. He has just as much a right to express his opinion as you do. You do not have to like it but there is no need to get so nasty and make your attack so personal.Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleInKansas
Like it or not, Deacon Frey is now a public figure as a member of the Eagles. Therefore, he will have to take the compliments with any criticism leveled to/at him. I am sure he is will aware of this and probably discussed all of this with his mother before he made the decision to join the band. Deacon is 24 - a grown young man. He is in fact older than his father was when he founded the Eagles in August 1971. Glenn was only 22(he turned 23 in Nov.that year). No one that I know of has said that Deacon is not talented. If someone says they hope he pursues his own path in life there is nothing wrong with that. It is simply their opinion, which they have a right to say - the same right as you have to disagree with it.
This is just my opinion but I felt it necessary to say something.
I agree, there would be nothing wrong with that, if that is what was said. Except that it wasn't. Dang. Instead, it was said that "it looks bad" that Deacon is riding Glenn's coattails. Or whatever the verbage was. Keep me posted, however, on which strangers it is acceptable to make personal attacks against. Now that we know it's okay to level them against Deacon, I assumed posters were fair game, as well. But unlike Austin, who quickly backtracked, I'll stand by my thoughts and stand up for Deacon. Whether you like it or not.