Getting back to the billing, there is no longer any pretence about the 'with' stuff. In the latest email I received it's just 'Eagles' & states that more dates have been added because of the 'overwhelming response'. The email also promoted the Sirius channel with specific mention of Gill & his favourites, etc. :lie::cry::enraged:
The next email I get from them, I will unsubscribe, and the more I see the tide turning here, the more likely it is that I will have to stop posting here.
Did you see Donny & Marie at the Flamingo in Vegas? That’s where I saw Richard Marx this summer and the tickets were very reasonable. But I agree with you about not needing front row seats to enjoy a concert, and I like smaller venues as well. When I did the m&g for Josh Groban it was a one time chance to personally thank him for the music that meant so much to my Mom and me. The last few years of her life she had Alzheimer’s and some days the only thing that made her calm was playing “her Josh Groban” and “her Alan Jackson” music. I lost my Mom recently and I remember how happy she was that I was able to give him a card from her.Quote:
Originally Posted by shunlvswx
I have to do ADA seating, well at least until I get the courage to have both knees replaced and a right hip replacement. Until then my best friend of 46 years and I are doing bucket list things. Both of us are pushing 70, we’ve survived cancer, then spouses to heart attacks, I’m retired and she retires next year. We did our first road trip in 26 years to Colorado last month and hope to go back again next summer to a concert at Red Rocks. My whole family is gone now. It’s just me and a little dog, and having the Eagles concert next year to look forward to is going to get me through the holidays. I don’t know where our seats will be, I’m just so grateful to see them.
So I apologize if my talking about going to meet and greet shows, sitting on the front row, or needing floor seats made me come across as being a snob. I didn’t want to offend anyone by what I said.
When I did the m&g for Josh Groban it was a one time chance to personally thank him for the music that meant so much to my Mom and me. The last few years of her life she had Alzheimer’s and some days the only thing that made her calm was playing “her Josh Groban” and “her Alan Jackson” music. I lost my Mom recently and I remember how happy she was that I was able to give him a card from her.
I have to do ADA seating, well at least until I get the courage to have both knees replaced and a right hip replacement. Until then my best friend of 46 years and I are doing bucket list things. Both of us are pushing 70, we’ve survived cancer, then spouses to heart attacks, I’m retired and she retires next year. We did our first road trip in 26 years to Colorado last month and hope to go back again next summer to a concert at Red Rocks. My whole family is gone now. It’s just me and a little dog, and having the Eagles concert next year to look forward to is going to get me through the holidays. I don’t know where our seats will be, I’m just so grateful to see them.
So I apologize if my talking about going to meet and greet shows, sitting on the front row, or needing floor seats made me come across as being a snob. I didn’t want to offend anyone by what I /quote]
TimBFan - Please accept my deepest sympathies on the death of your Mom. What a sweet story regarding “her Josh Groban” . I think Josh has a beautiful voice and one day hope to see him in concert. All I can say is go for everything in that bucket list ! Also, I hope you enjoy your Eagles concert next year. I'm sure no one things of you as being a snob, I don't.
:-)
PS - My next door neighbor just had knee replacement surgery. It was rough for her at first but she is now back to work and doing good.
TimBFan, thanks for giving the perspective of someone who would be willing to pay this much for tickets. We can each of us weigh up the costs and benefits and decide what is right for us.
I do think the way that TM handles sales is awful. It's one of the reasons why I bought from the venue for a Birmingham, UK, HotE show.
I'm going to buy through the venue so I don't have to pay those extra taxes which I think its stupid.
I'm so sorry for your loss, TimBFan. Maybe one day I will do a front row or center seat.
No. I haven't seen them in Vegas. Last year was my first concert of there's. I saw their brothers many times, but not them. I was so happy they came to MS.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimBFan
It's sad what has happened, downright pitiful but there are many many fans who do not support the band continuing without Glenn Frey regardless of who they hire to play the music and sing the songs. I have seen comments from disenchanted fans ranging from this is about Don Henley and Friends to the proverbial cash grab allegations and more. At the end of the day (figuratively speaking >>) all I can do is turn my head and cover my ears which is a very sad ending to 45 years of being an Eagles fan. To those who expect and even demand I embrace this lineup as an acceptable alternative I am sorry but that just isn't going to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
Well, you've seen what's happened to this thread which was supposed to be a 'safe space' (I loathe that term) for people like you & me. Now it's all about the ticket prices, which should have been discussed in the 2018 thread. Now it seems we don't even have this thread any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
Yes we have. I couldn't care less about the band now. I couldn't care less about Vince Gill in the Eagles. Only Glenn could sing a song like Lyin' Eyes under the name "Eagles" IMO. Etc. (Although I don't have a problem with anyone enjoying the band now - and no one should have a problem with me not enjoying it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
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Originally Posted by chaim
Yes - to use a Glenn Frey term - that clocks it pretty well. :headbang:
Amen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
EIK, there is nothing to discuss about Gill's "contributions" to the band. He's just a temp. Him singing Lyin' Eyes is about the most "inauthentic" thing I can think of right now when it comes to this. He doesn't belong. Period. If you want to praise him on the stuff he's done for himself outside of this, go ahead. But IMO he isn't some miracle that came swooping down to save the Eagles. Spare me. He was probably shaking when they offered it to him. He's thanking his lucky stars.
Exactly the same for me. If people want to enjoy Vince and Deacon, go ahead but I won't be. I couldn't care less about the band. But we have a right to not enjoy it and be ok with sharing it. Similarly, I don't have a problem with those who do.Quote:
Originally Posted by chaim
100% agreed. Nothing against Vince Gill, but he has nothing to do with the Eagles IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by WalshFan88
I’m excited about the possibility of seeing the Eagles in 2018 because I was afraid their touring was over. I will miss Glenn very much and my feeling is that one one will be able to fill his shoes.
The addition of Deacon and Vince to me isn’t an attempt to replace him, but rather a way to help celebrate his music and continue sharing it. I never met Glenn and I’ve not been able to go to so many shows as so many of you have, but I can’t help but feel that he would be happy that his music lives on no matter who is singing the lyrics.
His music lives on in his records. It doesn't need anyone else singing it for it to live on.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimBFan
In that Rolling Stone interview Henley stated that people wanted to hear 'the songs', and that it wasn't about the band members. If that is the case, see a tribute band. You won't have to spend the exorbitant sums this 'band' is currently charging.
This thought comes to my mind every time I hear someone say that it's about the songs, not the people who sing/play them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
TimBFan - Please accept my deepest sympathies on the death of your Mom. What a sweet story regarding “her Josh Groban” . I think Josh has a beautiful voice and one day hope to see him in concert. All I can say is go for everything in that bucket list ! Also, I hope you enjoy your Eagles concert next year. I'm sure no one things of you as being a snob, I don't.
:-)
PS - My next door neighbor just had knee replacement surgery. It was rough for her at first but she is now back to work and doing good.
Thank you so much for your kindness. I thought that the last few years have been tough, but being without a single living family member now feels a lot worse. The holidays are sheer hell, but it will take time and a lot of healing.
She would smile so brightly when she heard her favorite Josh and Alan songs. She had lost the cognitive skills to be able to play cds on her own but she remembered the words and would happily sing along. I miss her.
I’ve already had surgeries on each knee to shave off the bone deformities in each knee from the RA, but they’ve done all they can short of the total replacements. I dread more surgeries and I know it will mean having to go to a rehab facility and finding a caregiver for my dog. Ugh.
Sorry for your loss TimBFan.
I wish you strength, TimBFan (pun recognized).
The more that I see the obscene ticket prices for the new lineup, the more toward the 3.0 crowd I feel myself leaning.
Continuing, that's one thing, but to charge MORE for tickets......I tell you, I am just about done. My wife and I had the discussion last night...even if they come to Knoxville, based on what prices we're seeing, we won't even think about it.
By charging more, are you saying that Deacon Frey and Vince Gill are worth more money than Glenn? I get that they want to play. I do. I just see the math and it looks worse and worse to me.
I don’t think it’s the band saying we are worth more without Glenn. I am sure they have some reason but I doubt it’s because they feel are worth more. There are probably some figures they put together and they went off themQuote:
Originally Posted by BillBailey1976
Thank you WalshFan88 and Chaim. ❤️Quote:
Originally Posted by WalshFan88
Was talking to a friend who saw the Eagles on the HOTE tour and is a serious Vince Gill fan. She feels Vince Gill is all wrong for the Eagles and made the point if it was really all about singing Eagles songs and honoring Glenn Frey he could do that on his own (tour).
Sorry, I lost my WiFi
Anyway while that is true we both agreed it isn't realistic because of the huge benefits associated with being a touring member of the Eagles especially next year with up to 40 concert paychecks.
When pressed about why she thought he wasn't a "good fit" to use Vince Gill's own sentiments, she said as an Eagles fan she believes he does not measure up and thinks he was brought in primarily to take the pressure off Deacon and enable the band to keep going -->> Classic East/West was quickly coming up.
Edited to add
I am sharing this convo because I assumed as a Vince Gill and Eagles fan my friend would be supportive of the lineup and was very surprised to learn otherwise.
I can understand that. It doesn't mean that Vince Gill isn't as good as the Eagles guys - just that he doesn't totally fit in. Extreme fans didn't necessarily love Gary Cherone in Van Halen. G'n'R fans didn't necessarily love Axl Rose in AC/DC. Adam Lambert fans don't necessarily love Adam Lambert in Queen etc.
BB - We had a discussion about this a few pages back. However, there is too much stuff to keep track of regarding this. I stated I feel Don and Irving are taking advantage of fans who never saw them and are afraid if they don't see them now it will be too late. There is no way these tickets should be more expensive than the HOTE Tour tickets. That tour had 3 of the 4 original Eagles ! There is no way a single ticket is worth $1,640.00. In doing this, they have priced the regular fan out of purchasing tickets. On the Eagles numerous FB fan pages as well as their FB page, a lot of people have complained bitterly about the high prices. I am sorry that you and your wife have been priced out by their greediness. It is really a shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillBailey1976
PS- Be glad you don't live in the NJ/NY Metro area. The ticket prices here would truly be insane.
PS Again - lol - Dawn - Very interesting regarding your friends thoughts. I really do not know too much of anything about Vince. Everything I have read(including here) indicates what a nice guy he is. I look at it this way. He is probably making more money doing this than he has made in a very, very long time.
I think the bolded part is a major reason Vince was brought in as well. No one knew how Deacon would handle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
Yes, that's a very good observation, thanks Chaim. I guess I expected her to feel differently about the marriage because unlike myself she is a super fan of both Gill and the Eagles.
Yes, it is alot of pressure. However up to the task they believed Deacon to be his first gig out the door was the Classic West, a stadium size concert with 6 bands on the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia
Yes, I absolutely agree about the ticket prices. It is absurd and I am sorry too.Quote:
Originally Posted by New Kid In Town
As for Vince Gill he is clearly very talented and well respected in the industry. I am not a big fan but I do enjoy his music and his duets with his wife Amy Grant are quite good, I have always loved her singing and they make a good team.
Also can't see Deacon doing all Glenn's lead songs and believe the idea to add Vince Gill probably took hold in December 2016 at the Kennedy Center Honors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnolia
Wonder if they will be as strict as they have been in the past about having people sit in their seats instead of standing all night, and not allowing cameras? Having paid quite a chunk of change for our seats I would like to actually see the concert instead of the back pockets of the guy in front of me.
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Do you have any evidence to support that theory?
I only wish to add that I got another email from them & unsubscribed, as I had promised.
Irving Azoff quoted as the source by numerous media outlets including The Boot. I don't know if it is true or not but it is out there. Personally I think it is possible and don't know why Azoff would make this claim about when they got the idea to add Vince. What are your thoughts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Freypower
"According to the Eagles’ manager, Irving Azoff, the idea of adding Gill to the band’s lineup came about during December’s Kennedy Center Honors ceremony, during which Gill helped pay tribute to the Eagles."
The Boot
http://theboot.com/vince-gill-the-ea...17-tour-dates/
Edited to Add
IIRC The rumors about the band "reuniting/reforming" began circulating in the media around March 2017. Not long after came the stunning news about Azoff's summer CLASSiC East and West, a bi-coastal 6 band stadium sized concert with the Eagles sharing headliner billing with Fleetwood Mac. Given the time needed to organize an event of this size, contracting with talent, the venues, vendors, etc I would imagine this was being planned well in advance. Of course we gotta believe it helps that Azoff manages most if not all the talent/bands.
Summary ... From Kennedy Center Honors Dec 2016 to Summer Classic 2017 @ 6 months
New Lineup Publicity Photos released. Rehearsals begin in LA and elsewhere
Well that is a problem. Personally I am content to enjoy their music without leaving home. Cheaper too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimBFan
Edited to add
Sorry don't mean to be insensitive just being honest about my thoughts/feelings. It's a lot of money I do hope it all wotks out for you and your friends.
Seriously beginning to lose all interest in anything that has to do with this lineup and honestly don't believe we will ever know the truth. Clearly Azoff played a major role in the decision to continue without Glenn Frey. I am glad I can flip a switch plug in my earphones and still enjoy the Eagles and Glenn Frey anywhere and anytime. That is more than good enough. It's a blessing.
If I were physically able to stand along with everyone else, I happily would. I’m going to be doing great to get inside the venue with the assistance of my friends and couldn’t possibly stand because of health issues. I will need to get cortisone injections in both knees and both shoulders to get by. So I imagine you are thinking why on earth should I go then? It’s because I’ve been waiting to see them again since 1980 and they have been at the top of my bucket list. Because it gives me something to be really excited about. The only gift under my Christmas tree is an Eagles concert ticket because my entire family has passed away. I’ve been an Eagles fan since the day their music first came on the radio. So I’m going one last time to see them, and it isn’t too much to ask to be able to actually see the concert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
It appears that being excited about going to their concerts since Glenns passing is a touchy subject, so I apologize for making people uncomfortable. I won’t post anything further.
Wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas, and may you and your families and loved ones find all the joy, health and happiness your hearts can hold in the New Year.
TimBfan I saw them for the first time after Glenn passed after thinking I’d never get to see them since Glenn passed and I had an amazing time. I hope you have an amazing time. The Glenn songs sound different but the harmonies are very similar and they sound great. Merry Christmas to you as well and I hope you have a great new yearQuote:
Originally Posted by TimBFan
I feel the same way. As long as you can listen to the music (as New Kid in Town plays on my Pandora), he's always with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawn
While I agree Deacon couldn't sing everything, it really irks me having VG in the band. I just feel he didn't pay his dues enough and is just using it as a platform to boost himself up and become relevant again in the minds of younger people. He certainly isn't an Eagle and nor was he supposed to be. Deacon hasn't exactly paid his dues either, but at least he was in the family. Still bothers me though. I think Gill's enthusiasm for this new "venture" is what bothers me more than Deacon just being a caricature of Glenn but both are upsetting to say the least.