Poco Reunion for Legacy - why not Timothy?

[sodascouts]

Tim's relationship with Poco was mentioned in another thread, and it got me to thinking.

When Poco reunited for the Legacy project in 1988, it was Randy Meisner who was invited to participate, not Tim. This is in spite of the fact that Randy only contributed bass parts to Poco's debut album Pickin' Up the Pieces, and was fired from the band before the album hit the stores. Tim, on the other hand, was an important contributor to the band for years.

Timothy wasn't doing anything at the time, and we know he was hard up for cash.

Was there some kind of bad blood between him and Poco when he left the group for the Eagles? Is that why they didn't want him back for Legacy? He did guest on Inamorata in 1984, but obviously that didn't lead to him rejoining the group.

Anyone know?

[melrose]

I was always under the impression that the Legacy reunion was to reunite the original five members of Poco (Messina/Meisner/Furay/Young/Grantham). Although Meisner wasn't really a part of the Poco's Pickin' Up the Pieces, I believe they still viewed him as a founding member. Which he was. I think the overall objective of the album was to switch things up a bit. Maybe get a new sound or broader audience.

I don't really think there is bad blood between Timothy and current/past Poco members. I've heard, more than once, that the Poco members encouraged Tim to pursue the Eagles opportunity. I'm glad he did. I think he is part of what makes the Eagles so great. As with every other past and present member.

I remember some arguments about the whole lack of Schmit and Cotton issue. Some people think they should have been involve in Legacy; others not so much. :shrug:

[tbs fanatic]

When I saw Poco at our local theater a year or so ago they mentioned Tim's name fondly a couple of times - to great applause. So if there was a problem they have all moved on from it.

[TimothyBFan]

I have never read of any bad blood between the members of Poco and Tim. I also was under the assumption that the reunion was the original members but often wondered, since Timothy was such a huge part of Poco, why they didn't include him anyways. :shrug:

And might I say how wonderful it is to see a couple of new threads for Timothy the last few days! Thanks Soda!

[sodascouts]

No problem Willie!

I'm glad it seems that there wasn't ill will against Tim from the other members of Poco; if they actively encouraged him to leave the group for the Eagles, that's really impressive and selfless of them. Timothy added a lot to Poco, just as he adds a lot to the Eagles.

That makes sense about the 'original' five being involved in Legacy regardless of the fact that Randy's falling out with Furay in 1969 led to a lot of what he did being removed from the final mix of Pickin' Up the Pieces. In truth, Randy probably needed it more than Tim at that point anyway.

And it all worked out in the end. If Tim had been tied up in a Poco reunion, perhaps he wouldn't have been able to join the Eagles for HFO!

[tbsfan]

I have never read of any bad blood between the members of Poco and Tim. I also was under the assumption that the reunion was the original members but often wondered, since Timothy was such a huge part of Poco, why they didn't include him anyways. :shrug:


The same could be said of Paul Cotton as well. He joined when Messina left and sang lead on Heart of the Night, but also wasn't included in the Legacy project.

If I'm not mistaken, Legacy also occurred around that time the Eagles were trying to get back together when things eventually didn't work out so Timothy would not have been available anyway.

[TimothysGirl]

No the only animosity Poco has is with Don Henley, especially Rusty, tho I'm not sure why?? Timothy has kept in touch with Poco and has said that he really enjoyed his years with Poco . When the chance came to play with the EAGLES they strongly pushed Timothy to take it. Timothy says he moves forward and tries not to go back but felt the time was right now to join them at Stagecoach.
Not sure why he did the Inamorata album never read anything about it. Just hope they put out a CD and a DVD of the reunion,I know they had a film crew taping it :thumbsup:.

[Freypower]

Why would there be any animosity between Poco and Don Henley?

[tbsfan]

Why would there be any animosity between Poco and Don Henley?

Rusty Young has been known to make Henley/Eagles jokes during Poco shows. He even made one during the Stagecoach show (He told some guy sitting near the front that he looked like Henley and it was freaking him out. I've heard he's made that joke before.) If there is any animosity, it's probably one-sided and is based on the Eagles having the success that Poco was supposed to have - more like envy actually. I've seen some animosity on Poco fourms but that was from some (definitely not all) of the Poco fans. However, a few years ago (2002 or 2003 I think) when the Eagles played in Nashville, Rusty Young & George Grantham were there and Timothy acknowledged them from the stage.

[TimothysGirl]

I never got what stuck a burr under Rusty but wondered if it had to do with how he perceived they were treating Timothy and somehow that landed in Don's lap! Which is kind of funny cause Don and Timothy stayed in touch the most and even worked together on some projects during "The Vacation" they all had :shrug:. Oh well we'll probably never get the lowdown but it is strange.

[luvthelighthouse]

It's way late in the night and I just finished reading what seemed like a hundred old interviews from Tim during his Poco days. Wow, what a little personality he had. He was so much more colorful back then. Now, he's so laid back. I wonder how and when the shift occured.

One interview from his teen days asked about his favorite food... hamburgers! :) The thought of that would probably make him sick today.

Oh how I'd love to have dinner w/this man, just to talk to him about his musical career. What I love is that he seems to "get it". He knows that it's totally cool to be a rockstar and he isn't afraid to say it. He loves the admiration from the crowd... I think he's fantastic!

[TimothysGirl]

Where did you find the interviews LTLH?? I've read a few but it's hard to find the older ones as a lot say article or item removed or the link is dead. I agree he would be a great person to talk to and I love to have the chance to do that someday!! He's doing what he always wanted to do and loves doing it so his point is why deny it :). I'm not sure when he changed but I've got an idea why. I think it's a protection mechanism he's developed to be able to retain himself as he wants to be. Call it armor if you will but you definitely need something in that kind of enviroment to survive intact or at all. He's taken his share of hits and that has to change a person in some way or other. I expect we see what Timothy chooses to let us see and know of him.

[luvthelighthouse]

Where did you find the interviews LTLH?? He's doing what he always wanted to do and loves doing it so his point is why deny it :). I'm not sure when he changed but I've got an idea why. I think it's a protection mechanism he's developed to be able to retain himself as he wants to be. Call it armor if you will but you definitely need something in that kind of enviroment to survive intact or at all. I expect we see what Timothy chooses to let us see and know of him.


TG, I will PM you with the site I read the interviews on. Soda has spent so much time on her sites that I do not feel right promoting another site on here. :) I will respectfully disagree w/his change being armour. To me, I think it has more to do with at one time being a front man and then being sent to the side lines... but that is only my opinion. I think once you read the interviews and compare them to his personality now, you'll see where I'm coming from, even if you don't agree.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just call up his assistant and schedule a lunch w/Timothy? I'd be on a plane tomorrow if I could do that! :hilarious:

[sodascouts]

LTL, it's cool, just post the link here. The existence of other fansites doesn't take anything away from mine; indeed, if the site has good information on Poco, the Eagles, or anything of interest to fans, it deserves to be promoted so that people can enjoy the fruits of their hard work as well.

[luvthelighthouse]

Since I have your blessing Soda, here it is to others who would like it: http://www.geocities.com/klmeps/


I'm sure some others have seen this site... but for those who haven't have fun reading. I just like to hear his thoughts as things were happening...as opposed to hearing things after the fact or in hindsight. TBS had a little edge to him, which I just adored!

[tbsfan]

I expect we see what Timothy chooses to let us see and know of him.
I think that's how most people are, famous or not.

TG, I will PM you with the site I read the interviews on. Soda has spent so much time on her sites that I do not feel right promoting another site on here. :) I will respectfully disagree w/his change being armour. To me, I think it has more to do with at one time being a front man and then being sent to the side lines... but that is only my opinion. I think once you read the interviews and compare them to his personality now, you'll see where I'm coming from, even if you don't agree.

I've read all those interviews over the years and think the change has more to do with his growth and maturity than anything else. (Isn't he eating ice cream and drinking champagne while giving one of those Poco interviews?) A guy in his fifties-sixties is going to see things differently than a guy in his twenties. And just look at all the man has gone through since those Poco days. After all, it has been 32 years. I do think that of all the current Eagles, he is the most open in interviews.

[luvthelighthouse]

I think that's how most people are, famous or not.


I've read all those interviews over the years and think the change has more to do with his growth and maturity than anything else. (Isn't he eating ice cream and drinking champagne while giving one of those Poco interviews?) A guy in his fifties-sixties is going to see things differently than a guy in his twenties. And just look at all the man has gone through since those Poco days. After all, it has been 32 years. I do think that of all the current Eagles, he is the most open in interviews.


I probably shouldn't have said anything, as over the net things are so easily misunderstood, due to not having a tone of voice to go with your thoughts. Yes, people do grow and mature. After all those years someone should... however, I believe a person's core is who they are and always will be. I'm just saying, I enjoyed his edgier (is that even a word?) side.

[tbsfan]

I probably shouldn't have said anything, as over the net things are so easily misunderstood, due to not having a tone of voice to go with your thoughts. Yes, people do grow and mature. After all those years someone should... however, I believe a person's core is who they are and always will be. I'm just saying, I enjoyed his edgier (is that even a word?) side.
Maybe someone should just load him up with champagne and ice cream before interviews. :-D

[luvthelighthouse]

Maybe someone should just load him up with champagne and ice cream before interviews. :-D

Only if I can be the one serving it to him.:hilarious:

[TimothysGirl]

Might get some interesting results that's for sure :hilarious: . Not sure champagne and ice cream would do it for me though :eyebrow:.

[melrose]

I don't believe I've ever had that combination before...maybe I'll try it :shrug: It does sound a bit odd, but then again, it was the 70's!

[TimothysGirl]

I'll take peaches in champagne thank you, I'll leave the ice cream for the rest of you :hilarious:.

To get back on subject this Reunion would be a great time to release a CD and DVD combo. Maybe we should let it be known that it would be welcomed by the fans?!? It would be a wonderful memory of much happier times I think for everyone. An this time Timothy and even Paul would be on it.

[thelongrun]

Well, now we know he was called right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXCBmcKWHOU&feature=related

I am glad for Poco because for the first time in Centurys they have the right timing to release something. I mean now Eagles LROOE is no News, either any Eagles reunion even Tour. Since the launch of TIE early 70s' to this Date they always seemed to strugle with Eagles shadow, Not right now with their 2009 Reunion, so I am glad for Paul, Rusty & Co.

[TimothysGirl]

So wonderful to see George doing so well and Timothy with him :thumbsup: .

[ForexGuides]

Poco may have never become a household name, but the pioneering country rock group's influence is felt across American music, from the Eagles to Pure Prairie League and a host of modern acts performing alt-country.
Now the band is having a special reunion at Stagecoach on Sunday with the current incarnation of the lineup: Rusty Young, Paul Cotton, Jack Sundrud and George Lawrence, plus founding members Richie Furay and former Colton resident Jim Messina, as well as Eagles' bassist and former Poco player Timothy B. Schmit. Drummer George Grantham will also be there, although he won't perform because of a stroke a few years ago.
"It's going to be a one-of-a-kind evening," Young said in a recent telephone interview.
The band formed from the ashes of Buffalo Springfield, which featured Furay, Messina and also included some guys named Neil Young and Stephen Stills.
Poco's 1969 record "Pickin' Up the Pieces" blazed a path between country and rock music. Loved by critics, Poco never broke huge, but it did have hits with "Crazy Love" and "Heart of the Night."
"It's been a great ride," Young said. "We didn't sell 85 million records and we don't fly around in Lear jets and we don't have homes in four different countries, but it's really great."
:angel:

[whitcap]

I was looking through the archives and came across this thread. I thought I'd add what I knew.

Rusty Young and Jim Messina were the ones who initiated the reunion. They called Timothy but he wasn't interested in getting back with them. After that they decided to make it a reunion of the original members.

[sodascouts]

Thanks for the info, whitcap. Wonder why Timothy wasn't interested? With no Eagles reunion in sight and his own work not doing well, you'd think he'd want back in - unless he had some personal issues with the other guys.