Guns N'Roses

[sodascouts]

So they FINALLY released Chinese Democracy. Any thoughts?

[MikeA]

So they FINALLY released Chinese Democracy. Any thoughts?

Have you listened to it Soda? I haven't.

[sodascouts]

I haven't listened to it yet, no - I was kind of hoping to get some opinions first!

[TimothyBFan]

Here is a topic near and dear to my heart!!! I LOVE my GNR!!!! I bought Chinese Democracy the day it came out and it is really good. Ok --it's not the original GNR or anything but it is typical Axl Rose for the most part. His voice sounds great (IMHO). There are several songs on it that I love and a few not so much but for the most part it is pretty good. Really like Shackler's Revenge and Riad n' the Bedouins.I wasn't expecting it to be GREAT, because it just couldn't be, no matter what Axl chooses to call his band, it's not THE GNR. To me GNR will always be Axl, Slash, Duff McKagen, Izzy Stradlin and Steven Adler but of course that will NEVER happen again! I had to settle for Velvet Revolver for the longest time and now I have Chinese Democracy also. So I will just be happy with that. What other choice do I have?

[hickfromhell]

I think its way over produced. It sounds clean...but just a little too clean. The GNR that I know had this raw live-type element on their studio records...and thats what I loved most about them. And my mentor in my studio production internship said it best, "after 14 years of working on a record, how many original takes do you think are actually on there?" In my opinion...most of the time its those original takes that make a record magical. Other than that....I feel the same way about Chinese Democracy as I do about Metallica's St. Anger record...and that is, If they called it by a different band name as to set it in its own category away from the other records...its a really strong album. Like you said TBF, it is definitely Axl Rose...but not so much GNR.

[WalshFan88]

Any fans of GNR in the house? I really like the original Guns lineup (Axl, Slash, Duff, Steven, and Izzy).

My favorite albums are of course Appetite for Destruction (my fav) and Use Your Illusions 1&2 (close 2nd). My top 5 favorite songs from AFD are Paradise City, Welcome to the Jungle, Sweet Child o' Mine, Rocket Queen. I have 2 favorites from UYI, November Rain and Estranged.

I'm a fan of Slash's playing, especially on those albums. Velvet Revolver didn't do much for me. I don't have his new solo album yet so I can't make a judgement on it yet.

[TimothyBFan]

Did someone say Slash???? Duff McKagan? Also loved Steve Adler! I'm with you about the lineup, don't like todays lineup. I don't feel that's Guns N Roses just because Axl is in it. Wasn't real happy when Steve was replaced by Matt either but I understand why they had to do it because of Steve's issues. He was (is) a mess.

So Austin, what do you think of Chinese Democracy? I went and bought it the day it was released and listened to it exactly 1 time. Wasn't too impressed especially since I waited so long for it. Love Velvet Revolver and Slash's new solo album tho. Definitely great stuff there!!

If you haven't ever seen it, check out the dvd from Live At The Roxy. WOW!! They will just blow you away on it. The version of Rocket Queen on it is amazing. Steve about jumps out of his seat playing the drums on it.

Oh yeah, answer to your question...yeah, I'm a bit of a fan! :hilarious:

[WalshFan88]

Did someone say Slash???? Duff McKagan? Also loved Steve Adler! I'm with you about the lineup, don't like todays lineup. I don't feel that's Guns N Roses just because Axl is in it. Wasn't real happy when Steve was replaced by Matt either but I understand why they had to do it because of Steve's issues. He was (is) a mess.

So Austin, what do you think of Chinese Democracy? I went and bought it the day it was released and listened to it exactly 1 time. Wasn't too impressed especially since I waited so long for it. Love Velvet Revolver and Slash's new solo album tho. Definitely great stuff there!!

If you haven't ever seen it, check out the dvd from Live At The Roxy. WOW!! They will just blow you away on it. The version of Rocket Queen on it is amazing. Steve about jumps out of his seat playing the drums on it.

Oh yeah, answer to your question...yeah, I'm a bit of a fan! :hilarious:

I didn't like Chinese Democracy that well either. I just got today Slash's new album and it is really good. I dunno why I didn't like Velvet Revolver, maybe I'll like it better when they find a new singer. I'm not a Scott Weiland fan at all. He comes across as a..what's that word I'm looking for..starts with an A I think! :hilarious:

I don't have Live at the Roxy but you can bet I'll be looking for it now.

[sodascouts]

A friend of mine posted this on his Facebook and I thought some folks here might appreciate it!

WARNING: CONTAINS CUSSING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khNLvpTl-qU

[TimothyBFan]

:rofl: That was horrible!!! :hilarious: They sure didn't do Steven any favors in that did they. I'm a dreamer and hope it would happen but it never will. Slash did get up on stage and perform with Axl and the new GNR a week or so ago without killing each other. Step in the right direction I guess.

[Ive always been a dreamer]

:rofl: That was horrible!!! :hilarious: They sure didn't do Steven any favors in that did they. I'm a dreamer and hope it would happen but it never will. Slash did get up on stage and perform with Axl and the new GNR a week or so ago without killing each other. Step in the right direction I guess.

Well, after I saw another band reunite back in 1994 after a 14-year vacation, I now think anything can happen with groups reuniting. But, then, I've always been a dreamer. :wink:

[WalshFan88]

:rofl: That was horrible!!! :hilarious: They sure didn't do Steven any favors in that did they. I'm a dreamer and hope it would happen but it never will. Slash did get up on stage and perform with Axl and the new GNR a week or so ago without killing each other. Step in the right direction I guess.

Wow Slash played with the band??? I thought it was Duff. Maybe I misread what I saw online. If he did, that's a big step in the right direction.

[TimothyBFan]

You're right, I'm wrong. I've got Slash on the brain apparently. It was Duff in London in October or about that time. Which I can't believe he did with all the animosity between Slash & Axl, I thought it strange that Duff would go there. Know what I mean?

Slash made a comment awhile back that he would talk about a reunion if Axl ever apologized but Axl says no way.

Here's the vid of Duff showing up at that show. Looking good!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAoc87z9d4A

[WalshFan88]

You're right, I'm wrong. I've got Slash on the brain apparently. It was Duff in London in October or about that time. Which I can't believe he did with all the animosity between Slash & Axl, I thought it strange that Duff would go there. Know what I mean?

Slash made a comment awhile back that he would talk about a reunion if Axl ever apologized but Axl says no way.

Here's the vid of Duff showing up at that show. Looking good!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAoc87z9d4A

Yeah as soon as I heard that I said to myself, "I wonder what Slash thinks of this". Slash said Axl has to make the call to him and apologize but of course Axl won't. It's a real shame they were a great band. If Axl could have just not had so many attitude problems. I don't see a reunion happening, but I'll be very glad if they do!

[Topkat]

Duff joins Axl & Guns n' Roses on stage last night, hinting there might be a full Guns reunion. G&R did a full 3 hour show & Axl is in fine form:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/duff-mckagan-joins-guns-n-roses-seattle/

[WalshFan88]

I'll be there if so! GnR is one of the last "new" bands I liked. Amazing band and I love their music.

[Topkat]

Here's an interview Axl did about the upcoming R&R HOF induction & his relationship with Slash, who has yet to commit to appear at the award show.
It sounds like Axl does want the original members of G&R to appear together for the sake of the fans. Let's hope Slash will come to.:headbang:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-mixed-emotions-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-induction/

[Topkat]

Slash not ruling out a G&R reunion!!! Sure hope this really happens:headbang:



http://ultimateclassicrock.com/slash-trying-to-put-axl-rose-feud-to-rest/

[TimothyBFan]

I'm taking this as a good sign that maybe Slash & Axl will make amends, Slash wished Axl a happy birthday on his FB this morning.

Duff's bday yesterday, the redhead's today, Happy Birthday f****rs! iiiI; )'

There may be hope yet!!!

[Topkat]

From what I hear, G&R are playing 3 shows in NY this week. It has not been announced that Slash will be at these shows, but hey you never know, he just may show up!!! Still debating if I should go to one of these shows:headscratch: